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Post by nenya on Nov 29, 2017 21:51:35 GMT
Greig Fraser about Rooney: we can finally see that
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Post by mortimer605 on Nov 29, 2017 21:58:14 GMT
That 2nd part of your last sentence sounds like you're giving up on MM already While not spectacular, trailer was a solid one; nothing bad about it.
Ok, some people on AW think that movie will be awful. Big deal; they keep saying this for months now; and why is their opinion important anyway ? Maybe it's really underwhelming but lets wait for the professional critics first.
As for the whitewashing, I'll be concerned only when it starts to have an influence (subconsciously or not) on critic's opinion about the movie (and only in the case if the film is actually good; if not, it doesn't matter).
i guess, it never was my Rooney's most anticipated movie, mostly due to all that biblical matter and Joaquin Phoenix "bemused hippie" (kinda see it now a bit ) being in my face for too long two things i can barely stomach, AW people being wrong about a movie wouldn't shock me though even critics' opinion isn't everything to me, they can be ridiculous sometimes and we know it. this trailer just isn't good, too long, too obvious and boring, just trying too hard in a way, maybe the next one will be edited and thought through better, with some interesting concept, this was so generic and plain. Roons deserves better and Mary's point of view is so intrigiung and unique, Garth still can have a little treasure in his hands, these powerfull Rooney's scenes Fraser talked about, i hope they are still somewhere in this movie, they weren't in this trailer thought, not even a glimpse of something moving and strong enough to make me excited and those accents
( "Bemused hippie" :lol2: Damn Gregory Ellwood ! ;) )
I agree with you in some things, particularly that a good amount of trailer looks generic and too much "Hollywoodized" for my taste (some parts unfortunately remind me on TSS trailers). But overall, it looked better than I expected for some reason (maybe I'm distracted by the fact that Roons looks super-gorgeous and everything else doesn't matter ?)
In my opinion teaser in some vague form, with a few words (if any) was a much better option than the full-blown trailer. Let's wait to see what the US version will look like. Maybe it will have more subtle concept (though I'm not big optimist here).
And let's hope the movie is good, independent of the trailers.
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Post by nenya on Nov 29, 2017 22:21:07 GMT
i guess, it never was my Rooney's most anticipated movie, mostly due to all that biblical matter and Joaquin Phoenix "bemused hippie" (kinda see it now a bit ) being in my face for too long two things i can barely stomach, AW people being wrong about a movie wouldn't shock me though even critics' opinion isn't everything to me, they can be ridiculous sometimes and we know it. this trailer just isn't good, too long, too obvious and boring, just trying too hard in a way, maybe the next one will be edited and thought through better, with some interesting concept, this was so generic and plain. Roons deserves better and Mary's point of view is so intrigiung and unique, Garth still can have a little treasure in his hands, these powerfull Rooney's scenes Fraser talked about, i hope they are still somewhere in this movie, they weren't in this trailer thought, not even a glimpse of something moving and strong enough to make me excited and those accents
( "Bemused hippie" Damn Gregory Ellwood ! )
I agree with you in some things, particularly that a good amount of trailer looks generic and too much "Hollywoodized" for my taste (some parts unfortunately remind me on TSS trailers). But overall, it looked better than I expected for some reason (maybe I'm distracted by the fact that Roons looks super-gorgeous and everything else doesn't matter ?)
In my opinion teaser in some vague form, with a few words (if any) was a much better option than the full-blown trailer. Let's wait to see what the US version will look like. Maybe it will have more subtle concept (though I'm not big optimist here).
And let's hope the movie is good, independent of the trailers.
YES. like, we know what the main plot is, right? and how it ends just focus your creativity on something else than samples of every main event through the whole thing, in almost linear order with a few random scenes thrown in between. was it made strictly for catholics to ensure them there will be every obligatory point in Jesus path to his death and resurection? painfully predictable also 100 % agree on super-gorgeous Rooney's look
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Post by renoh on Nov 29, 2017 23:22:52 GMT
Had to first watch the trailer in the morning on my phone without audio because I forgot my earplugs and there was so much noise around. I don’t get a religious vibe in her which is good :) , I don’t think any particular religious group would be offended with this movie or at least with the trailer, I love Rooney’s presence.
Garth not only loves shooting parallels in his movies, but also between movies, I’ve detected a few shoots that are like a reflexion of Lion, at least 5. Also he loves making her dance :D .
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Post by mortimer605 on Nov 30, 2017 1:06:18 GMT
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Post by nenya on Nov 30, 2017 20:28:24 GMT
flung out of space :lol3:
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Post by mortimer605 on Nov 30, 2017 20:44:23 GMT
flung out of space
(rofl) :lol2:
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Post by renoh on Nov 30, 2017 23:17:54 GMT
flung out of space Ampersand phone home :)
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Post by nenya on Dec 1, 2017 15:59:48 GMT
Had to first watch the trailer in the morning on my phone without audio because I forgot my earplugs and there was so much noise around. I don’t get a religious vibe in her which is good , I don’t think any particular religious group would be offended with this movie or at least with the trailer, I love Rooney’s presence. Garth not only loves shooting parallels in his movies, but also between movies, I’ve detected a few shoots that are like a reflexion of Lion, at least 5. Also he loves making her dance . what scenes? i see something familiar between Mary and Jesus sitting somewhere up the hill and talking, and Lucy with Saroo doing the same thing, Garth filmed it in a similar way
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Post by renoh on Dec 1, 2017 19:49:00 GMT
Had to first watch the trailer in the morning on my phone without audio because I forgot my earplugs and there was so much noise around. I don’t get a religious vibe in her which is good , I don’t think any particular religious group would be offended with this movie or at least with the trailer, I love Rooney’s presence. Garth not only loves shooting parallels in his movies, but also between movies, I’ve detected a few shoots that are like a reflexion of Lion, at least 5. Also he loves making her dance . what scenes? i see something familiar between Mary and Jesus sitting somewhere up the hill and talking, and Lucy with Saroo doing the same thing, Garth filmed it in a similar way Yes that's one Time based on the Universal Pictures UK trailer: 1 at 0:04 the pan of the hills 2 at 00:20 Mary lying on the dirt talking to Jesus in the exactly same position she was with Saroo one in bed and another on a dirty mattress. 3 at 0:33 long shot of the hill 4 at 0:35 Scene in the water, Saroo had a similar one or two?, same camera movement. 5 at 0:55 Mary and Jesus in the hill talking, Saroo and Lucy when they went for a run, this is the one you noticed 6 at 1:36 Jesus walking with the crowd, similar when Saroo went to India and people followed him to meet her mother (less crowded in India) 7 at 2:00 Rooney arriving has the same feeling as when Saroo met her mom 8 at 2:01 Rooney holding someone head like Saroo mon did at the end, by the way, loved the Macarena right after that, wonder how long till someone upload a version of Magdalena instead lol I’m sure there’s more, I feel like I've seen some of the others scenes before too but don’t remember exactly which scene was in Lion. I tried to take screen shots to explain but I'm taking a very high dose of antihistamine since a few days ago and my movements and reactions are experiencing some delay.
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Post by nenya on Dec 2, 2017 16:29:45 GMT
what scenes? i see something familiar between Mary and Jesus sitting somewhere up the hill and talking, and Lucy with Saroo doing the same thing, Garth filmed it in a similar way Yes that's one Time based on the Universal Pictures UK trailer: 1 at 0:04 the pan of the hills 2 at 00:20 Mary lying on the dirt talking to Jesus in the exactly same position she was with Saroo one in bed and another on a dirty mattress. 3 at 0:33 long shot of the hill 4 at 0:35 Scene in the water, Saroo had a similar one or two?, same camera movement. 5 at 0:55 Mary and Jesus in the hill talking, Saroo and Lucy when they went for a run, this is the one you noticed 6 at 1:36 Jesus walking with the crowd, similar when Saroo went to India and people followed him to meet her mother (less crowded in India) 7 at 2:00 Rooney arriving has the same feeling as when Saroo met her mom 8 at 2:01 Rooney holding someone head like Saroo mon did at the end, by the way, loved the Macarena right after that, wonder how long till someone upload a version of Magdalena instead lol I’m sure there’s more, I feel like I've seen some of the others scenes before too but don’t remember exactly which scene was in Lion. I tried to take screen shots to explain but I'm taking a very high dose of antihistamine since a few days ago and my movements and reactions are experiencing some delay. wow, thanks! it's a lot! :shock2: i hope it won't be too much though it might be also Fraser's input, his camera movements, lightning, etc. i'm really curious about his work here
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Post by renoh on Dec 2, 2017 17:50:14 GMT
Yes that's one Time based on the Universal Pictures UK trailer: 1 at 0:04 the pan of the hills 2 at 00:20 Mary lying on the dirt talking to Jesus in the exactly same position she was with Saroo one in bed and another on a dirty mattress. 3 at 0:33 long shot of the hill 4 at 0:35 Scene in the water, Saroo had a similar one or two?, same camera movement. 5 at 0:55 Mary and Jesus in the hill talking, Saroo and Lucy when they went for a run, this is the one you noticed 6 at 1:36 Jesus walking with the crowd, similar when Saroo went to India and people followed him to meet her mother (less crowded in India) 7 at 2:00 Rooney arriving has the same feeling as when Saroo met her mom 8 at 2:01 Rooney holding someone head like Saroo mon did at the end, by the way, loved the Macarena right after that, wonder how long till someone upload a version of Magdalena instead lol I’m sure there’s more, I feel like I've seen some of the others scenes before too but don’t remember exactly which scene was in Lion. I tried to take screen shots to explain but I'm taking a very high dose of antihistamine since a few days ago and my movements and reactions are experiencing some delay. wow, thanks! it's a lot! i hope it won't be too much though it might be also Fraser's input, his camera movements, lightning, etc. i'm really curious about his work here Yes, if you consider all those parameters you will even find more mirror scenes ;) … and I’m talking just about what we’ve seen so far in the trailer. It's exactly like when you to a place for the first time and you feel you’ve already been there before. Garth likes to use the same compositions he has used before too, for example the hill pan, if you put one image next to the other, you’ll see the hills cover almost the same area and so does the water and the two people in the center. Then there’s the scene outside the church, a similar shot when Saroo climbs a column in order to find his brother: columns in the right, crowd on the bottom of the composition.
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Post by countjohn on Dec 3, 2017 19:26:10 GMT
She looks unusually beautiful in this.
Is this actually being based on her expanded role in the non-canonical gospels or is it just an original story?
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Post by nenya on Dec 3, 2017 19:49:53 GMT
She looks unusually beautiful in this. Is this actually being based on her expanded role in the non-canonical gospels or is it just an original story? problem with the spelling? didn't you mean beautiful as usual details about the script are unknown yet, one thing is clear - Mary Magdalene isn't a prostitute in this movie, i think both Garth and Rooney said so in their interviews
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Post by countjohn on Dec 3, 2017 20:51:12 GMT
She looks unusually beautiful in this. Is this actually being based on her expanded role in the non-canonical gospels or is it just an original story? problem with the spelling? didn't you mean beautiful as usual details about the script are unknown yet, one thing is clear - Mary Magdalene isn't a prostitute in this movie, i think both Garth and Rooney said so in their interviews Even more beautiful than usual would have been a better way to say it. If I recall my sunday school correctly the Bible never actually says she's a prostitute, some people just infer that.
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