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Post by sethan on Jul 2, 2017 13:34:26 GMT
Favorites films of 2016.
12. 20th Century Woman.
11. La La Land
10.Christine
9. Certain Women
8. Moonlight
7.Nocturnal Animals
6. Manchester by the Sea
5. American Honey
4. Elle.
3. Thing to Come.
2. Paterson
1. Jackie.
HM: Sing Street, Lion, A Bigger Splash, Keisha... (imperfect but lovelies)
I went with filmes I connected with in any level. Silence is out because is hard to me connect with Scorsese movies. (I adore Taxi Driver and Bringing Out Dead) but Silence is impressive and important. Just not for me.
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Post by LaraQ on Jul 2, 2017 14:43:49 GMT
We`re halfway through 2017 so here are my favorite films of the year so far...
1.Get Out.
2.Baby Driver.
3.Split(a real return to form for M Night)
4.Wonder Woman
5.Okja.
6.The Discovery.
6.Logan
7.Tramps.
8.Beauty and The Beast.
9.I Don`t Feel At Home In This World Anymore.
10.John Wick: Chapter 2.
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Post by mortimer605 on Jul 3, 2017 6:53:28 GMT
Favorites films of 2016. 12. 20th Century Woman. 11. La La Land 10.Christine 9. Certain Women 8. Moonlight 7.Nocturnal Animals 6. Manchester by the Sea 5. American Honey 4. Elle. 3. Thing to Come. 2. Paterson 1. Jackie. HM: Sing Street, Lion, A Bigger Splash, Keisha... (imperfect but lovelies) I went with filmes I connected with in any level. Silence is out because is hard to me connect with Scorsese movies. (I adore Taxi Driver and Bringing Out Dead) but Silence is impressive and important. Just not for me.
My list is very similar:
01. Jackie - most fascinating film of the year to me; and honestly best, in my opinion. Strange because I was always bored with the Kennedys, their story was done to death before. But this movie feels like an complete alien entity compared to other Kennedy stories - in the best possible way. When you mix Natalie's beautiful, haunted face, Mica Levi's score, tragic, iconic period in American history and with the help of intelligent script, superb cinematography and fine costumes and we'll get one of the best, unconventional biopics of our time. It's not 100% perfect (I find some dialogue between Jackie and Bobby a bit forced) but it's good enough to top the list.
02. Moonlight - apart from some small problems I have with the movie (transition from chapter 2 to chapter 3, out of place music in some parts etc.) it's fantastic coming-of-age story, beautifully written and masterfully directed. It's one of the treasures of American Cinema of this decade.
03. Manchester by the Sea - modern classic !
04. Paterson - most personal movie for me; Jarmusch and Driver at their best. Want to see it many more times.
05. Toni Erdmann - it's somewhat polarizing among the audiences but it has touch of genius; love it !
06. Silence - I'm not a big fan of Scorsese's filmography in XXI century but Silence is probably his best movie in the past 27 years; I think it will age well.
07. La La Land - not exactly my type of movie but I really appreciate craftsmanship and homage to old Hollywood musicals.
08. Elle - Queen Isabelle :queen:
09. The Handmaiden - production values, direction and cinematography are extraordinary but I find it flat in some parts.
10. American Honey - nice : . Need to see more Andrea Arnold's work.
HM - Arrival, Certain Women, Nocturnal Animals, Lion...
If this list was about "which movie connected with me the most" than Paterson would be No.1, easily.
Haven't seen Krisha yet and I need to see Things to Come again
Also, not sure what to make of The Neon Demon so far; I haven't decided yet if this is one of the year's bests or just bad, empty movie. Time will tell.
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Post by sethan on Jul 5, 2017 16:42:46 GMT
Favorites films of 2016. 12. 20th Century Woman. 11. La La Land 10.Christine 9. Certain Women 8. Moonlight 7.Nocturnal Animals 6. Manchester by the Sea 5. American Honey 4. Elle. 3. Thing to Come. 2. Paterson 1. Jackie. HM: Sing Street, Lion, A Bigger Splash, Keisha... (imperfect but lovelies) I went with filmes I connected with in any level. Silence is out because is hard to me connect with Scorsese movies. (I adore Taxi Driver and Bringing Out Dead) but Silence is impressive and important. Just not for me.
My list is very similar:
01. Jackie - most fascinating film of the year to me; and honestly best, in my opinion. Strange because I was always bored with the Kennedys, their story was done to death before. But this movie feels like an complete alien entity compared to other Kennedy stories - in the best possible way. When you mix Natalie's beautiful, haunted face, Mica Levi's score, tragic, iconic period in American history and with the help of intelligent script, superb cinematography and fine costumes and we'll get one of the best, unconventional biopics of our time. It's not 100% perfect (I find some dialogue between Jackie and Bobby a bit forced) but it's good enough to top the list.
02. Moonlight - apart from some small problems I have with the movie (transition from chapter 2 to chapter 3, out of place music in some parts etc.) it's fantastic coming-of-age story, beautifully written and masterfully directed. It's one of the treasures of American Cinema of this decade.
03. Manchester by the Sea - modern classic !
04. Paterson - most personal movie for me; Jarmusch and Driver at their best. Want to see it many more times.
05. Toni Erdmann - it's somewhat polarizing among the audiences but it has touch of genius; love it !
06. Silence - I'm not a big fan of Scorsese's filmography in XXI century but Silence is probably his best movie in the past 27 years; I think it will age well.
07. La La Land - not exactly my type of movie but I really appreciate craftsmanship and homage to old Hollywood musicals.
08. Elle - Queen Isabelle :queen:
09. The Handmaiden - production values, direction and cinematography are extraordinary but I find it flat in some parts.
10. American Honey - nice : . Need to see more Andrea Arnold's work.
HM - Arrival, Certain Women, Nocturnal Animals, Lion...
If this list was about "which movie connected with me the most" than Paterson would be No.1, easily.
Haven't seen Krisha yet and I need to see Things to Come again
Also, not sure what to make of The Neon Demon so far; I haven't decided yet if this is one of the year's bests or just bad, empty movie. Time will tell.
 Toni is good. I haven't seen T Handmaiden I will for sure. Have you seen The Discovery again? If you think in Redford as Malcom M is a very cute take... |
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Post by RedSparrow on Jul 5, 2017 17:08:42 GMT
Favorites films of 2016. 12. 20th Century Woman. 11. La La Land 10.Christine 9. Certain Women 8. Moonlight 7.Nocturnal Animals 6. Manchester by the Sea 5. American Honey 4. Elle. 3. Thing to Come. 2. Paterson 1. Jackie. HM: Sing Street, Lion, A Bigger Splash, Keisha... (imperfect but lovelies) I went with filmes I connected with in any level. Silence is out because is hard to me connect with Scorsese movies. (I adore Taxi Driver and Bringing Out Dead) but Silence is impressive and important. Just not for me.
My list is very similar:
01. Jackie - most fascinating film of the year to me; and honestly best, in my opinion. Strange because I was always bored with the Kennedys, their story was done to death before. But this movie feels like an complete alien entity compared to other Kennedy stories - in the best possible way. When you mix Natalie's beautiful, haunted face, Mica Levi's score, tragic, iconic period in American history and with the help of intelligent script, superb cinematography and fine costumes and we'll get one of the best, unconventional biopics of our time. It's not 100% perfect (I find some dialogue between Jackie and Bobby a bit forced) but it's good enough to top the list.
02. Moonlight - apart from some small problems I have with the movie (transition from chapter 2 to chapter 3, out of place music in some parts etc.) it's fantastic coming-of-age story, beautifully written and masterfully directed. It's one of the treasures of American Cinema of this decade.
03. Manchester by the Sea - modern classic !
04. Paterson - most personal movie for me; Jarmusch and Driver at their best. Want to see it many more times.
05. Toni Erdmann - it's somewhat polarizing among the audiences but it has touch of genius; love it !
06. Silence - I'm not a big fan of Scorsese's filmography in XXI century but Silence is probably his best movie in the past 27 years; I think it will age well.
07. La La Land - not exactly my type of movie but I really appreciate craftsmanship and homage to old Hollywood musicals.
08. Elle - Queen Isabelle :queen:
09. The Handmaiden - production values, direction and cinematography are extraordinary but I find it flat in some parts.
10. American Honey - nice : . Need to see more Andrea Arnold's work.
HM - Arrival, Certain Women, Nocturnal Animals, Lion...
If this list was about "which movie connected with me the most" than Paterson would be No.1, easily.
Haven't seen Krisha yet and I need to see Things to Come again
Also, not sure what to make of The Neon Demon so far; I haven't decided yet if this is one of the year's bests or just bad, empty movie. Time will tell.
Isn't that what lists are about? films that connected with you the most and the ones you took away most from? What is the difference between your first and second list? And why not put Paterson at no. 1 like it's meant to be? ;) |
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Post by mortimer605 on Jul 5, 2017 21:06:33 GMT
My list is very similar:
01. Jackie - most fascinating film of the year to me; and honestly best, in my opinion. Strange because I was always bored with the Kennedys, their story was done to death before. But this movie feels like an complete alien entity compared to other Kennedy stories - in the best possible way. When you mix Natalie's beautiful, haunted face, Mica Levi's score, tragic, iconic period in American history and with the help of intelligent script, superb cinematography and fine costumes and we'll get one of the best, unconventional biopics of our time. It's not 100% perfect (I find some dialogue between Jackie and Bobby a bit forced) but it's good enough to top the list.
02. Moonlight - apart from some small problems I have with the movie (transition from chapter 2 to chapter 3, out of place music in some parts etc.) it's fantastic coming-of-age story, beautifully written and masterfully directed. It's one of the treasures of American Cinema of this decade.
03. Manchester by the Sea - modern classic !
04. Paterson - most personal movie for me; Jarmusch and Driver at their best. Want to see it many more times.
05. Toni Erdmann - it's somewhat polarizing among the audiences but it has touch of genius; love it !
06. Silence - I'm not a big fan of Scorsese's filmography in XXI century but Silence is probably his best movie in the past 27 years; I think it will age well.
07. La La Land - not exactly my type of movie but I really appreciate craftsmanship and homage to old Hollywood musicals.
08. Elle - Queen Isabelle :queen:
09. The Handmaiden - production values, direction and cinematography are extraordinary but I find it flat in some parts.
10. American Honey - nice : . Need to see more Andrea Arnold's work.
HM - Arrival, Certain Women, Nocturnal Animals, Lion...
If this list was about "which movie connected with me the most" than Paterson would be No.1, easily.
Haven't seen Krisha yet and I need to see Things to Come again
Also, not sure what to make of The Neon Demon so far; I haven't decided yet if this is one of the year's bests or just bad, empty movie. Time will tell.
Toni is good. I haven't seen T Handmaiden I will for sure. Have you seen The Discovery again? If you think in Redford as Malcom M is a very cute take...
I rewatched The Discovery once again two months ago and my current rating is between 7 and 7.5. I really like central idea and conclusion (and some homages) but overall, it has flaws. What was missing from the movie is some "meat" in the story. The first two-thirds are solid but they look more like warm up for the final 30 minutes. And then, everything seem somehow...rushed ? Idk, in the end movie seems too small for this big, ambitious premise and ultimately suffers from it. I'll always watch this film from time to time because it definitely has some interesting, thought-provoking elements, worthy of more viewings.
Thumbs up for this sardonic, sarcastic side of Rooney. Really enjoyed her performance (hair too). And seeing her playing a mom,although briefly, was really cute. Also like Jesse Plemons here - this is the type of role PSH was specialist for 15-20 years ago.
"If you think in Redford as Malcom M is a very cute take..."
What ? Is Redford's role in this movie sort of Charlie's homage to his father ? Or to some, specific performance of his ? Or I didn't understood the best what are you trying to say ? :)
When you see this picture of Malcolm (still from O Lucky Man!, 1973), you have to wonder if Charlie got some ideas for The Discovery from this movie. At first sight, it seems obvious.
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Post by sethan on Jul 6, 2017 2:07:18 GMT
Toni is good. I haven't seen T Handmaiden I will for sure. Have you seen The Discovery again? If you think in Redford as Malcom M is a very cute take...
I rewatched The Discovery once again two months ago and my current rating is between 7 and 7.5. I really like central idea and conclusion (and some homages) but overall, it has flaws. What was missing from the movie is some "meat" in the story. The first two-thirds are solid but they look more like warm up for the final 30 minutes. And then, everything seem somehow...rushed ? Idk, in the end movie seems too small for this big, ambitious premise and ultimately suffers from it. I'll always watch this film from time to time because it definitely has some interesting, thought-provoking elements, worthy of more viewings.
Thumbs up for this sardonic, sarcastic side of Rooney. Really enjoyed her performance (hair too). And seeing her playing a mom,although briefly, was really cute. Also like Jesse Plemons here - this is the type of role PSH was specialist for 15-20 years ago.
"If you think in Redford as Malcom M is a very cute take..."
What ? Is Redford's role in this movie sort of Charlie's homage to his father ? Or to some, specific performance of his ? Or I didn't understood the best what are you trying to say ? :)
When you see this picture of Malcolm (still from O Lucky Man!, 1973), you have to wonder if Charlie got some ideas for The Discovery from this movie. At first sight, it seems obvious.
Can I send you a DM with what I meant ? I saw The Discovery again and saw some marks in the script and in the editing that I had not seen before. I think if I mention them to you, you will too. It's just a theory, if you're not interested, it's fine. It's just for fun. |
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Post by mortimer605 on Jul 6, 2017 6:59:25 GMT
My list is very similar:
01. Jackie - most fascinating film of the year to me; and honestly best, in my opinion. Strange because I was always bored with the Kennedys, their story was done to death before. But this movie feels like an complete alien entity compared to other Kennedy stories - in the best possible way. When you mix Natalie's beautiful, haunted face, Mica Levi's score, tragic, iconic period in American history and with the help of intelligent script, superb cinematography and fine costumes and we'll get one of the best, unconventional biopics of our time. It's not 100% perfect (I find some dialogue between Jackie and Bobby a bit forced) but it's good enough to top the list.
02. Moonlight - apart from some small problems I have with the movie (transition from chapter 2 to chapter 3, out of place music in some parts etc.) it's fantastic coming-of-age story, beautifully written and masterfully directed. It's one of the treasures of American Cinema of this decade.
03. Manchester by the Sea - modern classic !
04. Paterson - most personal movie for me; Jarmusch and Driver at their best. Want to see it many more times.
05. Toni Erdmann - it's somewhat polarizing among the audiences but it has touch of genius; love it !
06. Silence - I'm not a big fan of Scorsese's filmography in XXI century but Silence is probably his best movie in the past 27 years; I think it will age well.
07. La La Land - not exactly my type of movie but I really appreciate craftsmanship and homage to old Hollywood musicals.
08. Elle - Queen Isabelle :queen:
09. The Handmaiden - production values, direction and cinematography are extraordinary but I find it flat in some parts.
10. American Honey - nice : . Need to see more Andrea Arnold's work.
HM - Arrival, Certain Women, Nocturnal Animals, Lion...
If this list was about "which movie connected with me the most" than Paterson would be No.1, easily.
Haven't seen Krisha yet and I need to see Things to Come again
Also, not sure what to make of The Neon Demon so far; I haven't decided yet if this is one of the year's bests or just bad, empty movie. Time will tell.
Isn't that what lists are about? films that connected with you the most and the ones you took away most from? What is the difference between your first and second list? And why not put Paterson at no. 1 like it's meant to be? ;)
You have a point. If we look at the main characters, Paterson is definitely more close to me than Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, Chiron or Lee Chandler. Not only the main character but the story also. But I also must be objective and say that Jackie and Moonlight are slightly better films overall, for the reasons I explained in short above. Your question is right - what exactly makes someone's favorite film of the year ? Connection on a personal level, favorite actors in it, fascinating story and originality, flawless technical work, director's style or just good old fun ? Let's say that the mix of the most of these elements is ideal solution and in many cases choices are easy to make. But very often, it's more complicated than that.
For example - the movie year:1980. It has four great movies - Raging Bull, The Shining, The Empire Strikes Back and The Elephant Man (I'll mention only English-speaking ones in this case). The Elephant Man is my personal favorite in this group, Empire is definitely most fun to watch, while The Shining is one of my favorite films ever. But in the end, although the least "sympathetic" to me of the four, I honestly believe Raging Bull to be the best movie in the group with slightly superior direction, acting, editing and photography.
Also in 1999 - The Talented Mr. Ripley is the movie of that year which I rewatch and enjoy the most. But it's ranked as 3rd on my list, behind Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia, for the same reasons as above. Many more examples.
This is not to say that I'm just trying hard to be objective and forcing my personal enjoyment of movies away. No, I can connect with all these films also, in a different way. So when I watch Jackie, it feels close to me in the same way as Paterson - maybe not on direct personal level but as a movie lover it certainly does. If that makes any sense 
But don't be surprised if Paterson ends up being my favorite film of 2016 in year or two. For the year 2013, 12 Years a Slave was my favorite for quite some time and then, it was dethroned by Her and Inside Llewyn Davis. You never know... ;)
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Post by mortimer605 on Jul 6, 2017 7:10:47 GMT
I rewatched The Discovery once again two months ago and my current rating is between 7 and 7.5. I really like central idea and conclusion (and some homages) but overall, it has flaws. What was missing from the movie is some "meat" in the story. The first two-thirds are solid but they look more like warm up for the final 30 minutes. And then, everything seem somehow...rushed ? Idk, in the end movie seems too small for this big, ambitious premise and ultimately suffers from it. I'll always watch this film from time to time because it definitely has some interesting, thought-provoking elements, worthy of more viewings.
Thumbs up for this sardonic, sarcastic side of Rooney. Really enjoyed her performance (hair too). And seeing her playing a mom,although briefly, was really cute. Also like Jesse Plemons here - this is the type of role PSH was specialist for 15-20 years ago.
"If you think in Redford as Malcom M is a very cute take..."
What ? Is Redford's role in this movie sort of Charlie's homage to his father ? Or to some, specific performance of his ? Or I didn't understood the best what are you trying to say ? :)
When you see this picture of Malcolm (still from O Lucky Man!, 1973), you have to wonder if Charlie got some ideas for The Discovery from this movie. At first sight, it seems obvious.
I saw The Discovery again and saw some marks in the script and in the editing that I had not seen before. I think if I mention them to you, you will too. It's just a theory, if you're not interested, it's fine. It's just for fun.
Of course. :
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Post by RedSparrow on Jul 6, 2017 7:19:19 GMT
Isn't that what lists are about? films that connected with you the most and the ones you took away most from? What is the difference between your first and second list? And why not put Paterson at no. 1 like it's meant to be? ;)
You have a point. If we look at the main characters, Paterson is definitely more close to me than Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, Chiron or Lee Chandler. Not only the main character but the story also. But I also must be objective and say that Jackie and Moonlight are slightly better films overall, for the reasons I explained in short above. Your question is right - what exactly makes someone's favorite film of the year ? Connection on a personal level, favorite actors in it, fascinating story and originality, flawless technical work, director's style or just good old fun ? Let's say that the mix of the most of these elements is ideal solution and in many cases choices are easy to make. But very often, it's more complicated than that.
For example - the movie year:1980. It has four great movies - Raging Bull, The Shining, The Empire Strikes Back and The Elephant Man (I'll mention only English-speaking ones in this case). The Elephant Man is my personal favorite in this group, Empire is definitely most fun to watch, while The Shining is one of my favorite films ever. But in the end, although the least "sympathetic" to me of the four, I honestly believe Raging Bull to be the best movie in the group with slightly superior direction, acting, editing and photography.
Also in 1999 - The Talented Mr. Ripley is the movie of that year which I rewatch and enjoy the most. But it's ranked as 3rd on my list, behind Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia, for the same reasons as above. Many more examples.
This is not to say that I'm just trying hard to be objective and forcing my personal enjoyment of movies away. No, I can connect with all these films also, in a different way. So when I watch Jackie, it feels close to me in the same way as Paterson - maybe not on direct personal level but as a movie lover it certainly does. If that makes any sense
But don't be surprised if Paterson ends up being my favorite film of 2016 in year or two. For the year 2013, 12 Years a Slave was my favorite for quite some time and then, it was dethroned by Her and Inside Llewyn Davis. You never know... ;)
I used to think exactly like the way you do a year ago, even a few months ago. I will always remain objective and appreciate the movies that are considered great, but now I'm just more in the zone where no matter how imperfect a film maybe I'm going to go with the one which I enjoyed the most, the one I connected with, took away from most and also the one I'm sure to revisit. For example I really liked Magnolia (though I do think it's flawed) but I haven't seen it again. I thought There Will be Blood was brilliant, yet haven't revisited it in a while. The only PTA film I love revisiting is The Master. Maybe in a year's time I'll think differently, but I just want to remain true to myself, which sometimes can be a little challenging. |
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Post by mortimer605 on Jul 6, 2017 8:14:14 GMT
You have a point. If we look at the main characters, Paterson is definitely more close to me than Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, Chiron or Lee Chandler. Not only the main character but the story also. But I also must be objective and say that Jackie and Moonlight are slightly better films overall, for the reasons I explained in short above. Your question is right - what exactly makes someone's favorite film of the year ? Connection on a personal level, favorite actors in it, fascinating story and originality, flawless technical work, director's style or just good old fun ? Let's say that the mix of the most of these elements is ideal solution and in many cases choices are easy to make. But very often, it's more complicated than that.
For example - the movie year:1980. It has four great movies - Raging Bull, The Shining, The Empire Strikes Back and The Elephant Man (I'll mention only English-speaking ones in this case). The Elephant Man is my personal favorite in this group, Empire is definitely most fun to watch, while The Shining is one of my favorite films ever. But in the end, although the least "sympathetic" to me of the four, I honestly believe Raging Bull to be the best movie in the group with slightly superior direction, acting, editing and photography.
Also in 1999 - The Talented Mr. Ripley is the movie of that year which I rewatch and enjoy the most. But it's ranked as 3rd on my list, behind Eyes Wide Shut and Magnolia, for the same reasons as above. Many more examples.
This is not to say that I'm just trying hard to be objective and forcing my personal enjoyment of movies away. No, I can connect with all these films also, in a different way. So when I watch Jackie, it feels close to me in the same way as Paterson - maybe not on direct personal level but as a movie lover it certainly does. If that makes any sense
But don't be surprised if Paterson ends up being my favorite film of 2016 in year or two. For the year 2013, 12 Years a Slave was my favorite for quite some time and then, it was dethroned by Her and Inside Llewyn Davis. You never know... ;)
I used to think exactly like the way you do a year ago, even a few months ago. I will always remain objective and appreciate the movies that are considered great, but now I'm just more in the zone where no matter how imperfect a film maybe I'm going to go with the one which I enjoyed the most and the one I connected with and took away from most. Maybe in a year's time I'll think differently, but I just want to remain true to myself, which sometimes can be a little challenging.
I understand perfectly, I'm actually "cheating" on my "rule" from time to time . Today, it's easy to make difference between personal favorite (which is maybe not 100% perfect) and officially "great" movie (which is perhaps 100% perfect but you're not a big, enthusiastic fan of or can't connect with a story or characters enough) for the movies from previous decades - from 1940s or before to 1990s or 2000s. But what about movies from our decade ? Only time will tell. Some of them will stand this test, some not; some have big cultural impact at the start, some will become cult favorites, some will have none of it - for different reasons. It's fun to make movie lists based on personal predictions. Through the years, I saw many movie lists on various sites and honestly - when you look at them, you can always feel author's bias towards certain movies, directors and actors (no matter how hard they are trying to cover up). And who can blame them (us) ? None of those lists are so polarizing or debated like the ones for the movies and performances of 2010s.
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Post by sethan on Jul 6, 2017 21:49:27 GMT
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Post by sethan on Jul 8, 2017 1:43:11 GMT
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Post by mortimer605 on Jul 9, 2017 13:33:01 GMT
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Post by sethan on Jul 12, 2017 23:59:13 GMT
I agree with Top 3. Safe is 1 to me  |
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