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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 2:21:46 GMT
Yeah but kinda disappointed IMO. I mean Lowery sold his film it to A24 ( the best) and still he's very passionate about it. He favorited (since time ago) a few tweets about Casey legal issues and stuff... I really hope those tweets are not a kind confirmation that Casey is guilty or something. But the fact that Rooney seems to be still friends with him, tells me he's not. I like Charlie but I don't care what he thinks about it. My point is that he is a social media kind of guy. Always has been. And he's not using it now for his movie... |
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Post by RedSparrow on Feb 18, 2017 2:23:21 GMT
He had already sold it to Netflix, probably he already has the money on his pocket too. Really, he's twitting agains Casey? :o Yeah but kinda disappointed IMO. I mean Lowery sold his film to A24 ( the best) and still he's very passionate about it. Also Charlie is like a social media boy. He has built his career by that. He favorited (since time ago) a few tweets about Casey legal issues and stuff... I only saw one tweet which he favourited about Casey's performance being overrated and that Viggo's performance is more deserving of awards and attention. Nothing mean-spirited. I can't see anything about legal stuff. |
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 3:11:21 GMT
Yeah but kinda disappointed IMO. I mean Lowery sold his film to A24 ( the best) and still he's very passionate about it. Also Charlie is like a social media boy. He has built his career by that. He favorited (since time ago) a few tweets about Casey legal issues and stuff... I only saw one tweet which he favourited about Casey's performance being overrated and that Viggo's performance is more deserving of awards and attention. Nothing mean-spirited. I can't see anything about legal stuff. There's a few more like this |
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 3:37:49 GMT
Another one
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Post by RedSparrow on Feb 18, 2017 5:25:38 GMT
Yeah but kinda disappointed IMO. I mean Lowery sold his film it to A24 ( the best) and still he's very passionate about it. He favorited (since time ago) a few tweets about Casey legal issues and stuff... But the fact that Rooney seems to be still friends with him, tells me he's not. That's what I thought. It's very possible that these guys could know something more that we don't. Though my personal opinion about these accusations aren't entirely firm as we don't have enough info to prove, I do believe (no matter who is accused, whether Casey or anyone else) that until he's confirmed as not guilty (which I really hope is true) I'm going to be supportive of those women he's supposed to have abused. I'm saying this keeping in mind that these people sometimes do lie. But at the same time there have been too many of them in the past who have never been taken seriously, especially women, which truly pisses me off. And when they finally are, it's already too late. I really hope Casey's in the right and this is all a bunch of nothing. |
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 11:12:41 GMT
I really hope those tweets are not a kind confirmation that Casey is guilty or something. But the fact that Rooney seems to be still friends with him, tells me he's not. That's what I thought. It's very possible that these guys could know something more that we don't. Though my personal opinion about these accusations aren't entirely firm as we don't have enough info to prove, I do believe (no matter who is accused, whether Casey or anyone else) that until he's confirmed as not guilty (which I really hope is true) I'm going to be supportive of those women he's supposed to have abused. I'm saying this keeping in mind that these people sometimes do lie. But at the same time there have been too many of them in the past who have never been taken seriously, especially women, which truly pisses me off. And when they finally are, it's already too late. I really hope Casey's in the right and this is all a bunch of nothing. Okay. This is MY opinion about Casey legal accusations according the public information out there (Mine. I don't pretend to convince anyone). I think it's the typical case where things are going out of control mainly due to drug use. Casey has confessed in the past his problems with addictions in the press so I think he obviously has a responsibility there. But I think the girls also have responsibility as they are adults and are involved in that situation... And I think there is a lot of misunderstanding in the sense that harassment is not synonymous with rape. All this thing was years ago so Casey could be a totally different guy today ( or maybe not) but still he's a great actor and if mistakes cost careers we would not have artists or professionals of any kind. I THINK. Now if I were like Charlie, a long time ex boyfriend of an actress who has worked directly and successfully with Casey (and just released a movie with him) I would not give my opinion of that old case in public as a form of respect. To tweet about it It seems to me highly unnecessary and even foolish PS: Sorry not sorry for the off topic. I was thinking "out loud" about this and I thought this could be the place to talk about it |
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Post by RedSparrow on Feb 18, 2017 12:48:16 GMT
That's what I thought. It's very possible that these guys could know something more that we don't. Though my personal opinion about these accusations aren't entirely firm as we don't have enough info to prove, I do believe (no matter who is accused, whether Casey or anyone else) that until he's confirmed as not guilty (which I really hope is true) I'm going to be supportive of those women he's supposed to have abused. I'm saying this keeping in mind that these people sometimes do lie. But at the same time there have been too many of them in the past who have never been taken seriously, especially women, which truly pisses me off. And when they finally are, it's already too late. I really hope Casey's in the right and this is all a bunch of nothing. Okay. This is MY opinion about Casey legal accusations according the public information out there (Mine. I don't pretend to convince anyone). I think it's the typical case where things are going out of control mainly due to drug use. Casey has confessed in the past his problems with addictions in the press so I think he obviously has a responsibility there. But I think the girls also have responsibility as they are adults and are involved in that situation... And I think there is a lot of misunderstanding in the sense that harassment is not synonymous with rape. All this thing was years ago so Casey could be a totally different guy today ( or maybe not) but still he's a great actor and if mistakes cost careers we would not have artists or professionals of any kind. I THINK. Now if I were like Charlie, a long time ex boyfriend of an actress who has worked directly and successfully with Casey (and just released a movie with him) I would not give my opinion of that old case in public as a form of respect. To tweet about it It seems to me highly unnecessary and even foolish PS: Sorry not sorry for the off topic. I was thinking "out loud" about this and I thought this could be the place to talk about it I agree with you on a few points. And let me be a bit more clear. I love and respect Casey as an actor, and I do think he's got a great sense of humor (like I've seen in his interviews, and I think it's a bit similar to mine, if not a lot, lol) But unlike me, I think your love for him is blinding you a little bit here as you're short-changing (is that the right word) the effects these kind of things have on people (I don't mean to sound disrespectful to you when I say this). Because if it's true, The effects of the kind of stuff that he's accused of on the victims is huge. It ranges from clinical depression to even suicides. And so many other things in between. And all because of someone else's reckless actions, your life can seriously take a huge hit. And if true, those women aren't going to get their time or probably even their sanity back. The everyday struggles and helplessness that sets in more often that not don't ever go away. Hence I feel they need all the support they can get when they want to fight back. So keeping all this in mind, How great of an actor Casey is or what Casey is like as a person today or how long ago he committed these crimes are irrelevant as they have nothing to do with what he's actually accused of. If he's a different person, good for him but it isn't changing his past actions a bit. He isn't a child, and if he's committed the crime he better pay up. And this goes for anyone who's accused of these things. And I agree with you that it is troubling when people mix up rape and sexual harassment. People need to be more careful when using these words. As for Charlie, I wouldn't take it too seriously. It's only a couple of favourited tweets. And If that's how he feels, good for him to express his opinion, hiding it is no solution. |
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 13:22:27 GMT
Okay. This is MY opinion about Casey legal accusations according the public information out there (Mine. I don't pretend to convince anyone). I think it's the typical case where things are going out of control mainly due to drug use. Casey has confessed in the past his problems with addictions in the press so I think he obviously has a responsibility there. But I think the girls also have responsibility as they are adults and are involved in that situation... And I think there is a lot of misunderstanding in the sense that harassment is not synonymous with rape. All this thing was years ago so Casey could be a totally different guy today ( or maybe not) but still he's a great actor and if mistakes cost careers we would not have artists or professionals of any kind. I THINK. Now if I were like Charlie, a long time ex boyfriend of an actress who has worked directly and successfully with Casey (and just released a movie with him) I would not give my opinion of that old case in public as a form of respect. To tweet about it It seems to me highly unnecessary and even foolish PS: Sorry not sorry for the off topic. I was thinking "out loud" about this and I thought this could be the place to talk about it I agree with you on a few points. And let me be a bit more clear. I love and respect Casey as an actor, and I do think he's got a great sense of humor (like I've seen in his interviews, and I think it's a bit similar to mine, if not a lot, lol) But unlike me, I think your love for him is blinding you a little bit here as you're short-changing (is that the right word) the effects these kind of things have on people (I don't mean to sound disrespectful to you when I say this). Because if it's true, The effects of the kind of stuff that he's accused of on the victims is huge. It ranges from clinical depression to even suicides. And so many other things in between. And all because of someone else's reckless actions, your life can seriously take a huge hit. And if true, those women aren't going to get their time or probably even their sanity back. The everyday struggles and helplessness that sets in more often that not don't ever go away. Hence I feel they need all the support they can get when they want to fight back. So keeping all this in mind, How great of an actor Casey is or what Casey is like as a person today or how long ago he committed these crimes are irrelevant as they have nothing to do with what he's actually accused of. If he's a different person, good for him but it isn't changing his past actions a bit. He isn't a child, and if he's committed the crime he better pay up. And this goes for anyone who's accused of these things. And I agree with you that it is troubling when people mix up rape and sexual harassment. People need to be more careful when using these words. As for Charlie, I wouldn't take it too seriously. It's only a couple of favourited tweets. And If that's how he feels, good for him to express his opinion, hiding it is no solution. I do not love Casey as you think. I have not even seen all his movies. But its okay. Obviously I respect your opinion. Regarding Charlie I think he should be careful because I've seen a lot of people in my TL talking about their relationship with Rooney as a result of those favorites. Obviously is not life or death issue but I'm sure Rooney does not want to be exposed |
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 16:30:30 GMT
I agree with you on a few points. And let me be a bit more clear. I love and respect Casey as an actor, and I do think he's got a great sense of humor (like I've seen in his interviews, and I think it's a bit similar to mine, if not a lot, lol) But unlike me, I think your love for him is blinding you a little bit here as you're short-changing (is that the right word) the effects these kind of things have on people (I don't mean to sound disrespectful to you when I say this). Because if it's true, The effects of the kind of stuff that he's accused of on the victims is huge. It ranges from clinical depression to even suicides. And so many other things in between. And all because of someone else's reckless actions, your life can seriously take a huge hit. And if true, those women aren't going to get their time or probably even their sanity back. The everyday struggles and helplessness that sets in more often that not don't ever go away. Hence I feel they need all the support they can get when they want to fight back. So keeping all this in mind, How great of an actor Casey is or what Casey is like as a person today or how long ago he committed these crimes are irrelevant as they have nothing to do with what he's actually accused of. If he's a different person, good for him but it isn't changing his past actions a bit. He isn't a child, and if he's committed the crime he better pay up. And this goes for anyone who's accused of these things. And I agree with you that it is troubling when people mix up rape and sexual harassment. People need to be more careful when using these words. As for Charlie, I wouldn't take it too seriously. It's only a couple of favourited tweets. And If that's how he feels, good for him to express his opinion, hiding it is no solution. Agreed. I also think Casey is a great actor, if officially true, then I agree, he better pay up. However, a quick stop by his wikipedia page, reveals he has only been sober for about three years now, and I think one of the allegations had something to do with alcohol, but still it's not an excuse. Wait. I think we have different information. Why you and Red said "if officially true, then I agree, he better pay up."? I understand that the story is true and that he paid for it. He reached an economic agreement with the victims. In other words he accepted his responsibility. From there I think what I posted before. I have no doubt that the girls are telling their truth. But I don´t think that things are so black and white or that it should be something that reverberates in his career forever |
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Post by RedSparrow on Feb 18, 2017 16:43:56 GMT
Agreed. I also think Casey is a great actor, if officially true, then I agree, he better pay up. However, a quick stop by his wikipedia page, reveals he has only been sober for about three years now, and I think one of the allegations had something to do with alcohol, but still it's not an excuse. Wait. I think we have different information. Why you and Red said "if officially true, then I agree, he better pay up."? I understand that the story is true and that he paid for it. He reached an economic agreement with the victims. In other words he accepted his responsibility. From there I think what I posted before. I have no doubt that the girls are telling their truth. But I don´t think that things are so black and white or that it should be something that reverberates in his career forever By "pay up" I basically meant that if true, he better take responsibility for his actions and misdeeds. If he has actually paid the victims, then good for him, but it also kind of shows or gives a hint that the allegations are true, and he was trying to silence them? Why else would he pay them? |
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 17:05:44 GMT
Wait. I think we have different information. Why you and Red said "if officially true, then I agree, he better pay up."? I understand that the story is true and that he paid for it. He reached an economic agreement with the victims. In other words he accepted his responsibility. From there I think what I posted before. I have no doubt that the girls are telling their truth. But I don´t think that things are so black and white or that it should be something that reverberates in his career forever By "pay up" I basically meant that if true, he better take responsibility for his actions and misdeeds. If he has actually paid the victims, then good for him, but it also kind of shows or gives a hint that the allegations are true, and he was trying to silence them? Why else would he pay them? Yes. The allegations ARE TRUE and he paid. It´s a fact: |
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Post by Admin on Feb 18, 2017 17:24:12 GMT
I think we are in off-topic territory by now. Perhaps the discussion should continue in Off-Topic subforum. Leave this thread to "The Discovery".
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Post by sethan on Feb 18, 2017 18:32:21 GMT
Yes. The allegations ARE TRUE and he paid. It´s a fact: Well, that's good. It's officially over with, I'm sure he's moved on. I do however disagree with people claiming he should be treated like Nate Parker, Nate Parker had a 100% different case and scenario. (Well, that's good that he settled the lawsuit and what not, not meaning what he did was good) EXACTLY. It's officially over with, He's moved on. My question is why others (including Charlie) cant do the same. He has the right to start from scratch in life and his performance in Manchester is objectively brilliant. He does not postulate to model man, only to best actor. That´s all, folks. Sorry for the off-topic |
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Post by nenya on Feb 22, 2017 15:10:36 GMT
new trailer!
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Post by Admin on Feb 22, 2017 15:19:24 GMT
^This looks great.
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