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Post by renoh on Apr 11, 2017 20:08:17 GMT
I tried to do something like last night... I aborted the ideas, i realized religious people could be offended with the things I was doing. So I will think of another thing not involving that pic and a cross ;) . Oh yes I love the grainy texture of film, I used to take pics in 35mm when i was in college... digital killed film. Take the a pic of the same thing one with film and another digital, film has more personality. oops, you're right, i didn't think about this. like at all. it woudn't bother me. i was raised Catholic, but i'm not religious person, if anything i'm more and more anticlerical at this point in my life. or rather in the current situation in my country  (painfully ultra catholic, like really ridiculously. no offence to other catholics in here), but it's OT, perhaps General Thoughts is a better place for that discussion... I was raised Catholic too, I have no religion now. I'll do your poster soon ;) , now I'm going to leave to go see STS :popcorn: . |
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Post by RedSparrow on Apr 12, 2017 14:08:05 GMT
Here's the trailer for DETROIT directed by Kathryn Bigelow, also Annapurna's first release. What do you think? Could this pop up at Cannes? That's a really good trailer. Don't know about Cannes, but I guess it could happen. Does August 4 sound like a good release date? They're surely eyeing this for awards season. |
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Post by renoh on Apr 16, 2017 23:45:51 GMT
I've just finished watching this short, so funny :lol2: , what to do after a break-up.
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Post by RedSparrow on Apr 17, 2017 7:27:07 GMT
I've just finished watching this short, so funny :lol2: , what to do after a break-up. Ok that was really good  Thanks for sharing. |
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Post by nenya on Apr 17, 2017 20:09:33 GMT
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Post by renoh on Apr 17, 2017 20:42:29 GMT
Netflix is not as bad as having your movie directly to DVD, sometimes DVD movies don't even get purchased and you find them in the sales section, but with Netflix you get more people to watch your movie. There are little good movies that I guess I wouldn't had watched them if it wasn't for Netflix. |
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Post by mortimer605 on Apr 17, 2017 21:56:14 GMT
Is a movie still a movie if it premieres on Netflix? Well... to be honest, it feels more like a TV project to me. If movie doesn't have proper theatrical release it's simply not a real movie for me. A good amount of the movies released only on Netflix will remain largely unknown to the general public, no matter how good they are. Is anyone here surprised how Beasts of No Nation was snubbed last year for any nomination ? And yes...I wanted to see The Discovery on a large screen in theater, not as a fcking stream !
I agree with everything David said in this article, especially this:
Unfortunately, I think that the worst is yet to come. Really don't see this will stop anytime soon and this is not something that makes me happy either. I use Netflix only for some TV shows and movies for which I know that I'll be interested to watch them only once or missed to see in theaters (I can't even find 50% movies I want to see on Netflix - some European cult classics or avant-garde cinema etc). I don't like how Netflix and other major streaming services make great, art movies look like "fast food" products instead of some great delicatessen (when I watch something on streaming services, I have a feeling like I'm eating at McDonalds  sometimes).
Every movie I really anticipate/love I need to watch on a large screen and later buy a Blu-Ray (or DVD if the movie is only good). This is my rule for many classics also. It's not even a question for me.
And don't start me on people who watch movies on their phones...That's an insult even for Michael Bay movies, let alone some great films. That's not even convenience, just laziness.
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Post by sethan on Apr 17, 2017 22:43:12 GMT
Is a movie still a movie if it premieres on Netflix? Well... to be honest, it feels more like a TV project to me. If movie doesn't have proper theatrical release it's simply not a real movie for me. A good amount of the movies released only on Netflix will remain largely unknown to the general public, no matter how good they are. Is anyone here surprised how Beasts of No Nation was snubbed last year for any nomination ? And yes...I wanted to see The Discovery on a large screen in theater, not as a fcking stream !
I agree with everything David said in this article, especially this:
Unfortunately, I think that the worst is yet to come. Really don't see this will stop anytime soon and this is not something that makes me happy either. I use Netflix only for some TV shows and movies for which I know that I'll be interested to watch them only once or missed to see in theaters (I can't even find 50% movies I want to see on Netflix - some European cult classics or avant-garde cinema etc). I don't like how Netflix and other major streaming services make great, art movies look like "fast food" products instead of some great delicatessen (when I watch something on streaming services, I have a feeling like I'm eating at McDonalds sometimes).
Every movie I really anticipate/love I need to watch on a large screen and later buy a Blu-Ray (or DVD if the movie is only good). This is my rule for many classics also. It's not even a question for me.
And don't start me on people who watch movies on their phones...That's an insult even for Michael Bay movies, let alone some great films. That's not even convenience, just laziness.
+ 1 I´m old school too. Someone talked about The Discovery being harmed by this and I think it's true. I spoke before how I thought that the cinema would have benefited because it is a movie that aspires to convey feelings through its PD. The sensation of televising episode that Netflix gives it harms and has an A cast so as to want more ... but it would not blame the platform, each author must watch for their work. As far as I know UNA rejected the offer to value the experience that gives a theater and I think they were smart despite risking the amount of viewers. In Netflix you are one more fish and the risk of getting lost in the ocean is high. But certain classic films like TSS think they fit better. I have a TV with Netflix and its important cause watching movies directly in PCs or phones is................................. Did you know how is FilmStruck? |
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Post by RedSparrow on Apr 18, 2017 0:20:40 GMT
Is a movie still a movie if it premieres on Netflix? Well... to be honest, it feels more like a TV project to me. If movie doesn't have proper theatrical release it's simply not a real movie for me. A good amount of the movies released only on Netflix will remain largely unknown to the general public, no matter how good they are. Is anyone here surprised how Beasts of No Nation was snubbed last year for any nomination ? And yes...I wanted to see The Discovery on a large screen in theater, not as a fcking stream !
I agree with everything David said in this article, especially this:
Unfortunately, I think that the worst is yet to come. Really don't see this will stop anytime soon and this is not something that makes me happy either. I use Netflix only for some TV shows and movies for which I know that I'll be interested to watch them only once or missed to see in theaters (I can't even find 50% movies I want to see on Netflix - some European cult classics or avant-garde cinema etc). I don't like how Netflix and other major streaming services make great, art movies look like "fast food" products instead of some great delicatessen (when I watch something on streaming services, I have a feeling like I'm eating at McDonalds sometimes).
Every movie I really anticipate/love I need to watch on a large screen and later buy a Blu-Ray (or DVD if the movie is only good). This is my rule for many classics also. It's not even a question for me.
And don't start me on people who watch movies on their phones...That's an insult even for Michael Bay movies, let alone some great films. That's not even convenience, just laziness. As someone who lives in a country where 90% of movies from around the world would never be screened in theatre's even if they get a theatrical release everywhere (Unless its fast and the furious or transformers), I'm grateful for things like Netflix. It may not be the best way to watch films but it definitely makes it accessible for people who don't have the luxury to watch it on the big screen, that most people from other countries usually do. Even among us Rooney fans, I'm pretty sure I'm the last one to watch her new releases. I mean there's no way Song to Song is coming here, and no way Una would be released here. In fact, apart from The Social Network, Her and Lion not a single film of hers released here. There was a huge debacle during TGWTDT release, where it was to come out but got pulled at the last minute. |
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Post by renoh on Apr 18, 2017 3:14:09 GMT
Is a movie still a movie if it premieres on Netflix? Well... to be honest, it feels more like a TV project to me. If movie doesn't have proper theatrical release it's simply not a real movie for me. A good amount of the movies released only on Netflix will remain largely unknown to the general public, no matter how good they are. Is anyone here surprised how Beasts of No Nation was snubbed last year for any nomination ? And yes...I wanted to see The Discovery on a large screen in theater, not as a fcking stream !
I agree with everything David said in this article, especially this:
Unfortunately, I think that the worst is yet to come. Really don't see this will stop anytime soon and this is not something that makes me happy either. I use Netflix only for some TV shows and movies for which I know that I'll be interested to watch them only once or missed to see in theaters (I can't even find 50% movies I want to see on Netflix - some European cult classics or avant-garde cinema etc). I don't like how Netflix and other major streaming services make great, art movies look like "fast food" products instead of some great delicatessen (when I watch something on streaming services, I have a feeling like I'm eating at McDonalds sometimes).
Every movie I really anticipate/love I need to watch on a large screen and later buy a Blu-Ray (or DVD if the movie is only good). This is my rule for many classics also. It's not even a question for me.
And don't start me on people who watch movies on their phones...That's an insult even for Michael Bay movies, let alone some great films. That's not even convenience, just laziness. As someone who lives in a country where 90% of movies from around the world would never be screened in theatre's even if they get a theatrical release everywhere (Unless its fast and the furious or transformers), I'm grateful for things like Netflix. It may not be the best way to watch films but it definitely makes it accessible for people who don't have the luxury to watch it on the big screen, that most people from other countries usually do. Even among us Rooney fans, I'm pretty sure I'm the last one to watch her new releases. I mean there's no way Song to Song is coming here, and no way Una would be released here. In fact, apart from The Social Network, Her and Lion not a single film of hers released here. There was a huge debacle during TGWTDT release, where it was to come out but got pulled at the last minute. There are movies on Netflix that one can only see if you attend a festival or wait for the DVD, there isn't a big festival in town, and normally festival passes cost too much. You've already seen a big chunk of STS on all those clips, and photos ;) . |
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Post by renoh on Apr 18, 2017 3:20:52 GMT
I've just finished watching this short, so funny :lol2: , what to do after a break-up. Ok that was really good Thanks for sharing. You're welcome :) . Tig Notaro should write something for Rooney, that would be hilarious. SNL recently copied her, I haven't watch the skit yet, but they say it is very similar to Clown service. |
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Post by mortimer605 on Apr 18, 2017 9:18:40 GMT
Is a movie still a movie if it premieres on Netflix? Well... to be honest, it feels more like a TV project to me. If movie doesn't have proper theatrical release it's simply not a real movie for me. A good amount of the movies released only on Netflix will remain largely unknown to the general public, no matter how good they are. Is anyone here surprised how Beasts of No Nation was snubbed last year for any nomination ? And yes...I wanted to see The Discovery on a large screen in theater, not as a fcking stream !
I agree with everything David said in this article, especially this:
Unfortunately, I think that the worst is yet to come. Really don't see this will stop anytime soon and this is not something that makes me happy either. I use Netflix only for some TV shows and movies for which I know that I'll be interested to watch them only once or missed to see in theaters (I can't even find 50% movies I want to see on Netflix - some European cult classics or avant-garde cinema etc). I don't like how Netflix and other major streaming services make great, art movies look like "fast food" products instead of some great delicatessen (when I watch something on streaming services, I have a feeling like I'm eating at McDonalds sometimes).
Every movie I really anticipate/love I need to watch on a large screen and later buy a Blu-Ray (or DVD if the movie is only good). This is my rule for many classics also. It's not even a question for me.
And don't start me on people who watch movies on their phones...That's an insult even for Michael Bay movies, let alone some great films. That's not even convenience, just laziness. As someone who lives in a country where 90% of movies from around the world would never be screened in theatre's even if they get a theatrical release everywhere (Unless its fast and the furious or transformers), I'm grateful for things like Netflix. It may not be the best way to watch films but it definitely makes it accessible for people who don't have the luxury to watch it on the big screen, that most people from other countries usually do.Even among us Rooney fans, I'm pretty sure I'm the last one to watch her new releases. I mean there's no way Song to Song is coming here, and no way Una would be released here. In fact, apart from The Social Network, Her and Lion not a single film of hers released here. There was a huge debacle during TGWTDT release, where it was to come out but got pulled at the last minute.
(hey, in my place There Will Be Blood was never released back in 2007 - they thought it was too artsy for general audience :lol2: which obviously means - no money; some film critics and movie lovers really put a fight for TWBB but without success. I had to wait three years for some festival to watch it properly).
Netflix is good in that convenient, practical way and I understand your point of view especially if you don't have much choice but I'm still not a fan of watching great, good movies in that way. It's a still "fast food" to me. I'm with David on this one but it seems we are in minority. As I said above, the worst is yet to come. Netflix bought The Irishman - see, this is first Scorsese's movie with De Niro after 23 years; this should be like nirvana for all film lovers and yet...movie probably wont have proper theatrical release. To me this is not normal and it would be almost unimaginable just two years ago. Silence flopped at the box office so it's understandable (maybe majority of Scorsese's audience today don't want to watch his films for the sake of art after all, maybe all they want is to watch Leo posing in his movies). The question is - where all this leads ? In that interview, Rooney wasn't a big fan of this future also.
At least TWC is behind Mary Magdalene but God knows what will happen to Vox Lux and A House in the Sky. They could become prey for Netflix easily and I'd be very unhappy because of that.
(What happened with the TGWTDT release in your place? Why was pulled out ? Not because of nudity and violence, right ?)
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Post by nenya on Apr 18, 2017 11:43:44 GMT
i've mixed feelings about this issue, i appreciate there's an option for people with limited access to the movies (most of the titles come out over here very late, we're usually months behind the world, or they don't come out at all), so i know the pain, but i also agree with this: it's a matter of the way people are consuming movies these days, i know if i want to watch something important to me i have to do it in the cinema, where it's my only focus of attention, otherwise i would do exactly what David described - watching it with my one eye while doing something else  i guarantee you that many people are doing the same. and it's shame. not to mention how deep experience it can be if you watch a movie on your iphone as for a wide audience and more people watching your movie, i'm not quite sure if it really works, i usually use services like this when i know exactly what i want, i know what to search for, but what about all those new movies i don't know about?! they're lost, disappear so quick. there's almost zero promotion, ranking system sucks as well, and even filmmakers don't have any idea how many people are watching their work on Netflix, because like Davis said , the company refuses to share data with its content suppliers! so i have to agree that streaming is good but it can't be just that, it's not enough it should be preceded by a proper theatrical release (of the new titles), on some larger scale than 4 cinemas in NY only! >:( streaming and theatrical release shouldn’t be mutually exclusive. |
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Post by RedSparrow on Apr 18, 2017 11:50:35 GMT
As someone who lives in a country where 90% of movies from around the world would never be screened in theatre's even if they get a theatrical release everywhere (Unless its fast and the furious or transformers), I'm grateful for things like Netflix. It may not be the best way to watch films but it definitely makes it accessible for people who don't have the luxury to watch it on the big screen, that most people from other countries usually do.Even among us Rooney fans, I'm pretty sure I'm the last one to watch her new releases. I mean there's no way Song to Song is coming here, and no way Una would be released here. In fact, apart from The Social Network, Her and Lion not a single film of hers released here. There was a huge debacle during TGWTDT release, where it was to come out but got pulled at the last minute.
(hey, in my place There Will Be Blood was never released back in 2007 - they thought it was too artsy for general audience :lol2: which obviously means - no money; some film critics and movie lovers really put a fight for TWBB but without success. I had to wait three years for some festival to watch it properly).
Netflix is good in that convenient, practical way and I understand your point of view especially if you don't have much choice but I'm still not a fan of watching great, good movies in that way. It's a still "fast food" to me. I'm with David on this one but it seems we are in minority. As I said above, the worst is yet to come. Netflix bought The Irishman - see, this is first Scorsese's movie with De Niro after 23 years; this should be like nirvana for all film lovers and yet...movie probably wont have proper theatrical release. To me this is not normal and it would be almost unimaginable just two years ago. Silence flopped at the box office so it's understandable (maybe majority of Scorsese's audience today don't want to watch his films for the sake of art after all, maybe all they want is to watch Leo posing in his movies). The question is - where all this leads ? In that interview, Rooney wasn't a big fan of this future also.
At least TWC is behind Mary Magdalene but God knows what will happen to Vox Lux and A House in the Sky. They could become prey for Netflix easily and I'd be very unhappy because of that.
(What happened with the TGWTDT release in your place? Why was pulled out ? Not because of nudity and violence, right ?)
Bingo. I mean what else could it be, Our censor board requested for the rape scene and the sex scenes to be cut. Sony said no. And that's that. |
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Post by RedSparrow on Apr 18, 2017 11:55:08 GMT
The article bothers me in multiple ways, this is coming from a privileged film critic who has every film pre-screened theatrically to them via the distributor, and who attends almost every film festival. I live in the U.S, I only get to see about 10% of all indie releases all year, primarily A24/FSL/SPC/AMAZON films, the rest I have to wait for VOD/Blu-Ray, etc. How am I suppose to see everything on the big screen if it never comes near my area or an area surrounding me? Netflix is good in some cases, mainly they are good for paying large amounts of money for films, which benefit the producers getting their money back on however much they spent on it. The film's acquired and or produced by Netflix are released in almost every country in the world, compared to a regular indie film, that may never reach some countries. Netflix is horrible in the marketing department, some films never get key art, trailers don't drop until a week before, no one goes on press tours. Why doesn't Netflix become like Amazon, theatrically distribute your films, then 3-4 months later, have it pop up on Netflix, getting a better marketing department. We only have to worry about VOX LUX getting buried, I'm sure HOUSE IN THE SKY will likely be released by Annapurna, since they are distributors now. I agree with everything you said. But what do you mean by 'Vox Lux' being buried? |
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